Monday, July 31, 2006

Food person

The Cod proposes a new word in place of f***ie to describe those with a passion for eating.
Allow me to propose "foodneck" as an alternative. I'm not making a big push, just give it a test drive:

"My sister's staying with us on Friday -- she's a real foodneck -- where should we take her for dinner?"

Give it a try, and let me know how it works out for you.
Foodneck. Food Neck. Foodneck.

A commenter (commentator?) named Hugh responded:
As for "foodneck" , how about foodnik? "foodneck" sounds like a cross between redneck and some sort of clam.
To which the Cod replied:
As for "foodnik," I think it sounds too much like a faux Yiddish insult.
I added:
I too was wondering neck/nik and thinking redneck. Mulling it over. I like that it sounds unusual. But I do want a term I can feel comfortable using to describe myself.

My dining companion suggested "fooder," making an analogy to Star Trek fans. We might call them Trekkies, but apparently they prefer to be called Trekkers--they're on the trek too. I have also considered "foodist," which would be better if it didn't sound so much like nudist. El Fooderino?
You may recall that I earlier floated the term foodinista with reservations expressed that it might sound too feminine. I had in mind the Sandinistas and Zapatistas (both of them dudely -istas as far as I know) more than the fashionistas, which Doug seemed to sense in his comment:
"Foodinista" sounds to me like a term of derision an opponent might use to describe an obese Nicaraguan Marxist.
That's a good one.

So, I'm prepared to use foodneck if others will go along with it but I don't want to be the lonely soul saying "aubergine" in an "eggplant" culture. I don't really think it's very likely that we will invent a word since it almost never works that way, but the power of the internet is potentially magnificent.

(Other terms occur to me: foodophile, foodster. I'm not going to start now with words beginning gastro-, eat-, aliment-, grub-, nosh-, and chow-.)

MORE: Jam Faced doesn't have the answer either.
Foodie. "Oh you're a bit of a foodie are you, ho, ho, ho". I'd love it if that last "ho" was cut off by the sound of one of my Global knives being stuck into speaker's solar plexus. It's like, having made a conscious decision to like my food, instead of pouring pig swill down my gullet like some deranged goose destined for a Frenchman's lunch box, I am somewhere between a vegetarian and someone who is into crystals or, in the minds of most of fellow male Englishman, probably just gay.


Blogger zp said...

I think Peter and/or Peter at Tea Leaves prefers "chowhound" . . .

One of them is boiling yogurt today.

I like foodnik. Because nogoodnik just isn't used enough anymore.

8:51 AM  
Blogger the chocolate lady said...


8:56 AM  
Blogger Pyewacket said...

Ooh, as a food-obsessed Beatnik, I like foodnik, but foodster has its appeal. Can't say that I'm crazy about foodneck. It sounds vampire-ish.

9:20 AM  
Blogger mzn said...

I like chowhound but to me it describes someone with a passion for eating out. I usually prefer eating in.

Voluptuary reminds me of Russian novels, so points for that.

I didn't know you were a Beatnik, pyewacket. That's awesome. There's lots of hip video for you on You Tube if you poke around.

9:31 AM  
Blogger Pyewacket said...

Well, actually I'm a wannabe Beatnik - born a bit too late (like in 71). But I love Kerouac and Ginsberg and jazz and the old American highways and black turtlenecks and the art scene in mid-century New York and all that stuff. And black turtlenecks. So I identify with the Beats (and the pop culture version, the Beatniks) much more than with, say, the hippies, despite their appealing back-to-earth thing, or, I don't know, yuppies.

Last year I was the youngest person at the Kerouac pub crawl during Kerouac days in Lowell, and one of only two women. It's lonely to be a beatnik in the new millenium...

I haven't spent as much time on YouTube as you clearly have, but your recent link list has inspired me. Time to waste some time.

2:41 PM  
Anonymous Rebecca said...

Hmm, I like the word "voluptuary" but think it connotes, or do I mean denotes so much more than just eating, like enjoyment of all things sensuous; it especially makes me think of sex but that could just be me.
"Chowhound" sounds too greedy, and I think folks who are into food are discriminating and not mere chowhounds.
I like "foodnik" better than "foodneck" - there's something about that "neck" that's just not right.

8:52 PM  
Blogger mzn said...

Re voluptuary, the OED's definition:
"One who is addicted to sensuous pleasures; one who is given up to indulgence in luxury or the gratification of the senses; a sybarite." Etyomology is Latin voluptas, pleasure.
For sybarite:
"A person devoted to luxury or pleasure; an effeminate voluptuary or sensualist."
For effeminate:
"Womanish, unmanly, enervated, feeble; self-indulgent, voluptuous; unbecomingly delicate or over-refined."
And for voluptuous, among many meanings:
"Of fare or feasting." Reference: "1796 MORSE, Amer. Geog. II. 589 That dissolving jelly which is so voluptuous a rarity at European tables."
Who doesn't crave a nice voluptuous American dissolving jelly?
(None of the OED "voluptuous" definitions refer to a zaftig woman, which is the connotation that comes to my mind when I hear that word.)

10:01 PM  
Anonymous lindy said...

Personally, I like "foodster." It implies enthusiasm without distain, and doesn't mind being a bit silly.

5:31 PM  
Blogger The Jeff Next Door said...

This is probably not the best time to reclaim hedonist or *shudder* glutton. :-)

I like what you're trying to do, although I'm still not convinced that foodneck is IT... I was thinking of variations on cuisine, but it would probably come across as too french in our galli-phobe society. Can we find a way to rework trencherman to be gender-neutral?

PS -- I've never particularly thought of ChowHound as specific to restaurant eating.

4:28 PM  
Anonymous Rose's Lime said...

If foodnik is too faux yiddish, why not the authentic "fresser"?

1:24 PM  
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3:19 AM  
Blogger k said...

Well, this was fun. And to think I landed here while trying to find a recipe to carry to a beatnik dinner tomorrow night!

I have no offerings, but like foodnik. It feels casual and fun. Foodneck feels too visual or anatomical or something.

2:14 PM  

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